Tacora Buchanan: Better student loans and Pell Grants.

by Doc_Smith on November 14, 2009

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SMoldie November 14, 2009 at 8:42 pm

LOL honours even, we have to agree to disagree on this issue. Here’s to civil discourse and opposing opinions.

rapsody November 14, 2009 at 9:04 pm

yeah.. hopefully no one punches a wall, breaks their hand, and decides they need the taxpayers to pay for their stupidity in your country either!

SMoldie November 14, 2009 at 9:43 pm

rapsody we must agree to disagree. I wish you continued good health in your system:D

rapsody November 14, 2009 at 10:16 pm

american dream? no. but i also dont believe socialism can deliver any service better than the market can. if we had a truly free market in health care, it would be much more affordable because competition would be a lot higher and a lot more people would have personal insurance policies rather than hoping your employer provides it through the HMO system. you would be able to pick the dr and policy that best fits what you need.

i am advocating freedom in health care, not the HMO system.

SMoldie November 14, 2009 at 10:36 pm

Oh Lord LOL Don’t tell me you part of the american dream the dream of being able to pay for a broken leg or the birth of a baby without bankrupting yourself (an amazing phenom in US society for a european to get her head around).The society pays for health care either collectively and relatively fairly or individually as in america. We must agree to disagree. PS all HMO or insurance based schemes are propped up by your government.

rapsody November 14, 2009 at 11:26 pm

thats funny because i dont have any money yet im defending the system lol. i dont even have health care myself, but i dont just blame the government for it. of course you need money for care, no service is truly “free”.. someone has to pay for it. the goal of government should be to let the market work and keep prices down though, not deliver care because they have proved terribly inefficient at delivering any service and the free market has always done better than govt programs.

SMoldie November 15, 2009 at 12:02 am

I live and work in the UK and and have friends and family who work in Health care on both side of the Atlantic. There conclusions are if you have money the US system works if not your in trouble. Your right there are issues over waiting lists but any life threatening dieases is treated unlike in the US system the free market is not in my opinion capable of handling healthcare, cancer, obesity, mental illness ect, are not in and of themselves profitable the bottom line in the free market.

rapsody November 15, 2009 at 12:44 am

and yet we still have better care than any country with a “free” system.

rapsody November 15, 2009 at 1:24 am

no im not misinformed, check the stats. 1.2 million people in canada cant even find a doctor. people have to wait months if they need a major operation. check the stats. what do you think universal care would be like in a country with 250 million people?

i agree our current system is terrible, but it is because of the government enacting the HMO system. not because of the free market.

SMoldie November 15, 2009 at 1:38 am

rapsody, you have been misinformed, in the UK all healthcare is free at the point of delivery, no payment for child birth, emergency care ect ect. There are issues over funding but the fundermental principal of free universal health care free a the point of delivery is alive and well. Unlike your ailing insurance based corrupt health care system which excludes the weakest most vunerable in your society.

rapsody November 15, 2009 at 2:00 am

do you think its just a coincidence that anywhere the federal government puts their hands, prices skyrocket? (education, health care, energy, food) while services left to the free market (cell phones, computers, etc) the prices always go down or stay steady?

rapsody November 15, 2009 at 2:13 am

we havent tried universal health care because it doesnt even work in countries half our size. they are ALREADY rationing health care in canada and the UK because people are having such a hard time getting a doctor to see them. anyone who has any money still comes to the US to have any major operation because where they have free care you have to wait months to see any kind of specialist and you will literally die waiting. government programs are a failure not a savior.

SMoldie November 15, 2009 at 2:27 am

rapsody, government programmes are essential a covenant between the student and wider community, mutally supporting each other at different period in there economic cycles. With regards US health, you have not tried comprehensive free health care, as in europe and look at your communities as a result.

SMoldie November 15, 2009 at 2:31 am

rapsody, government programmes are essential a covenant between the student and wider community, mutally supporting each other at different period in there economic cycles. With regards US health, you have not tried comprehensive free health care, as in europe and look at your communities as a result.

rapsody November 15, 2009 at 3:01 am

right, and you DON’T do that by driving education prices up with government programs. look how well the government has done at getting us all health care. you think they are going to do better at education? you must know something i don’t.

SMoldie November 15, 2009 at 3:47 am

victimization no realism re the economic realities with regards certain population within the US. To improve your country, economical as well as socially and penally you need a more diverse college population whom graduate.

rapsody November 15, 2009 at 4:07 am

ohhh let’s victimize minorities, yeah.. trendy

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